|| 12/14/2004 ||
Concorde crash blamed on U.S. jet - A metal strip that fell off a Continental Airlines jet and a design fault in Concorde led to the supersonic jet's crash outside Paris in 2000, which killed 113 people, an official report on Tuesday.

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NeoCon Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 10:55 AM :
The French are responsible to clearing their runways before allowing other airliners to go on their takeoff rolls.

Nony Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 3:22 PM :
Don't be silly NeoCon, airplanes takeoff and land at 30 second intervals, so no time to clean runways. If you ever flew out of JFK and stood "in line" for takeoff you would know a simple thing like that. Same hold true for Paris airport.

And the article states that there was also a design fault in the Concorde, and that the replacement strip that fell off was not approved by the US aviation authorities.

NeoCon Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 3:30 PM :
So if a door falls off on a French runway its not the responsibility of the French controllers to halt the next takeoff? Comeon. The French are just incompetant. Quit making excuses for them.

Nony Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 3:40 PM :
If a door falls off, the plane will not takeoff, failsafes would prevent if from takeoff , and all takeoffs will be canceled until emergency is over. This was a little strip of metal (not even a foot long and half an inch wide if my memory serves me correctly) nobody noticed. If it had happened in New York, same result.

If you drive your car and a bit of chrome falls of your trunk, you would not notice but the guy after you might have a puncture, if your door falls off, I think you kind of notice...

I think you are not the flying kind, otherwise you would be more aware of the shit that goes on in airports...

What you got against the French anyway? They were right about Iraq weren't they? Can't admit it?

Sky Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 5:04 PM :
On both military and civilian flightlines, things on the runways, taxiways and aprons are known as FOD, named for what they cause to aircraft -- Foreign Object Damage. When I was in the USAF years ago, each oncoming shift would do a "FOD walk" to pick up the stuff that shouldn't be there. "Follow Me" vehicles patroled the runways and taxiways lookign for debris. Similar measures are used at civilian airports. But think about it. JFK is a busy airport. Atlanta International is the busiest busiest airport in the world (or Chicago O'hare they run neck and neck on traffic). During the peak hours, Atlanta has a take off or landing every 15 seconds on it's five runways. At any given time, there are 200-300 aircraft moving about. It isn't possible to make sure every little screw or strip of metal is removed. Because of this, commercial aircraft engines are very tough and will withstand quite a bit of damage. It is highly unlikely that a ground controller at an Airport the size of Atlanta would see a strip of metal fall from an aircraft during it's takeoff roll. There are so many aircraft and the area so large, they use radar to track them just like when they are in the air. But screws and such are nothing compared to a bird strike, so the aircraft can take it.

So that Concord had a design problem. Obviously not a big one, since the aircraft had been in service for a long time. I can't remember any other Concord crashing. It was a remarkably well designed and engineered aircraft (albeit a fuel hog). BTW the Concord was a consortium program between British Aircraft Corp and Sud Aviation (France), who built the airframe, and Bristol Siddley (GB) and SNECMA (France), who built the engines.

Alice Wrote the following on 12/15/2004 5:33 PM :
I always wanted to fly on the concorde. Never got the chance .. then again, I never would have been able to afford it. From what I understand, that was the true downfall ... it was too expensive to run.

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